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I think your points are valuable to keep things in prespective, however it's kind of comparing orange and apple due to age difference. I'm sure many of the negative issues of SL, won't last very long (or as long as it did, when flash came out). But it's a good thing for SL to catch up to industry std.

I hope a representative from MS will give some inputs on the missing parts.

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Where do you get your statistics for the performance being nearly the same between Silverlight and Flash? I would assume that Silverlight 1.1 running managed code would beat Flash, but maybe I'm wrong.

Silverlight doesn't even have support for things that should be considered a stock part of any library such as buttons, checkboxes, list boxes, list views, grids, etc. Probably in future release may Microsoft support it.

Oh. I think XAML has those tags (textbox, buttons, checkboxex or etc),isn't it?

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FYI, Microsoft has confirmed that socket support and a rich control set will be added in a future release (likely 1.1)

Also, perhaps the most significant features of Silverlight are its databinding and UI component composition models.  To be fair, you should at least mention those, given Flash's relative weakness in those areas.

Thanks.

Can you please provide a source of this information?

I'm glad I waited and did not use Flash to develop.  I tried many times to justify integrating it with my MS stuff, but just never could quite get everything together.  I've been waiting for years for Microsoft to come up with something like this that would fit in with their existing technology.  I can't wait for it to mature.

It's amazing how many of these comparison lists are put together by people who simply don't understand either technology. Most of the above points are regurgitated info taken out of context from other sites that miss the extra (and critical) details and exceptions. Additionally, (at least in terms of some of the Flash points), it appears that the author simply ignored the current feature-set of Flash9.

I'm not a zealot on either technology, as both have their benefits and weaknesses. I have admiration and distaste for both technologies on their stronger and weaker points. But making blanket statements like "Flash does not support Scalable full screen video" or "Right now not any support to play Silverlight object as Windows application." are ridiculously misleading and simply untrue.

In the future, if anyone plans on making another one of these feature comparison lists, how about a little research on every point to ensure that information is current, correct, and relevant. Working production knowledge is extremely important as well :)

Bill Reiss:

Where do you get your statistics for the performance being nearly the same between Silverlight and Flash? I would assume that Silverlight 1.1 running managed code would beat Flash, but maybe I'm wrong.

 I think this is in reference to the performance metrics of Flash9/AS3. It's a night/day comparison of perf when matching Flash6/7/8 with AS1/AS2 to Flash9 with AS3.  However, I haven't seen any true perf metrics done on identical apps optimized under both platforms (Flash9/AS3 vs SL 1.1/C#). It would be a good experiment :)

my friend you will find on same site you are....means

http://silverlight.net/forums/t/3015.aspx

hit up 

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yes today Silverlight has lots of drawbacks, but its only start

you find after SL1.0 RC , now SL1.1 Alpha has managed code ability means actual power of .net framework  and that really make good snese

and as developer i am surly says that compare to Flash SL is defiantly same what i want.. it make me easy and fast development

and in small days Silverlight sure beat flash

so dont worry and start your work,dude we have microsoft support

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"To deploy Silverlight to client browser more than one components ship. (1) XAML files (2) .dll if using C# (3) Silverlight.js (4) Custom JavaScript file. Images/videos/sounds also required deploy separately."

 I think this is more like an advantage than a disadvantage compared to flash's binaries. It's works like HTML. You can easily modify and/or generate dynamic content on serverside, using php or other.

"Silverlight is missing Linux support"

The Mono team already working on it :) (u know, it's open...)

 "Flash has rich set of control library."

http://www.netikatech.com/
http://www.telerik.com/products/silverlight/overview.aspx#1456
give it some time ;)

"While Silverlight is using XAML as description language in a non-compressed format size of Silverlight component is large."

"Silverlight provides the ability to download content as a package, which is a collection of independent files containing XAML content, media assets, and other application data. The Zip file format is supported as a download package. [...] Once the package is successfully downloaded, you can use methods, such as GetResponseText, SetSource (Image), SetSource (MediaElement), and CreateFromXamlDownloader, to selectively retrieve a specific named part of the package. "
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb232904.aspx

"The performance of Silverlight"

The CLR version seems to be very fast. Like 5 times faster (script running...).

hello friends,

is it possible to have socket programming in silverlight ....

if not.. then is there any other way to communicate to server without using IIS...

thanx & Regards

Naveen Kushwaha 

I've read that socket support will be in a future release, not sure whether it will be in for 1.1 or sometime later.

yeah Bill, thanks for replying..

that i've already read....

is there any other way to communicate to the server without using IIS

thanx  

Naveen Kushwaha 

Software Engineer

Gameking India Pvt.Ltd. 

naveenkushwaha:

is there any other way to communicate to the server without using IIS
thanx  
Naveen Kushwaha 

Since the programing language of SL 1.0 is the browser's javascript,
you can allways use XMLHTTPRequest or any other means the browser support.

SL 1.1 promise Web services support , which means object serialisation,
fast and easy development in the server-size using the VS wizards, etc.

If you want Web services support right now, you can use a swf in the page to do it for you,
or you can embed a C# control (in IE only) to do the same. Beware that C# controls have
some silly security limitations, like no threads are allowed which leads to no async downoads/comunication, etc.

i used webservice with silverlight

and it is working well

now the problem is that i linked my silverlight project to my asp.net website in which i have a login page(i.e. login.aspx)

now i have to maintain session(login info.) on the game page(page.xaml.cs)

but i am unable to access the session info. on the game page...

can u please help me how to maintain session in silverlight page..

thanks & regards

naveen kushwaha

I'll be curious to see this updated once Silverlight 1.1 is released, or even track it against the next alpha/beta.

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I dont know how many WPF features will be available in Silverlight 1.1b but I am kinda guessing data-binding will be (as they promised LINQ support in future releases).

 What I dont understand is he went on to compare Flash 9 with alpha release of Silverlight, and another point he forgot to mention is Flash Professional CS3 costs around $600 where as if you care you can start building Silverlight in Notepad.

 When I first heard about Silverlight I was excited, and I was a bit taken back by the features not available in 1.1a, and I thought Silverlight 1.1a is more CPT than alpha and they should have waited but I guess Mix'07 pushed them to release it as alpha. Silverlight by itself is a great concept and brilliantly done by MS. I am optimistic and I hope Silverlight 3.0 would have more features than what we have in WPF and that change internet for life and for good.

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Hey Now Nira,

This was a very informative post.

Thx,

Catto

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Cass:

and another point he forgot to mention is Flash Professional CS3 costs around $600 where as if you care you can start building Silverlight in Notepad.

There is a lot of free Flash editors, what about OpenLaszlo.org ? And Visual Studio also costs about 600 $, doesn't it ?

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Waar:

Visual Studio also costs about 600 $, doesn't it ?

Yes.  Blend also costs us..  :(

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